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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221544443" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221544443">(Jan 04 2021 at 16:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>Meeting today in 2 hours 40 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221560292" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221560292">(Jan 04 2021 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>And here is the upcoming agenda <a href="https://hackmd.io/@rust-libs/BJhAiCeRv">https://hackmd.io/@rust-libs/BJhAiCeRv</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221560309" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221560309">(Jan 04 2021 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>40 minute warning</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221562801" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221562801">(Jan 04 2021 at 18:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey all, I will not be coming to today's meeting. Got a project deadline and working hard to meet it... I will be free to do my tasks after this Wednesday. <br>
Updates to my tasks:</p>
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<li>Fix errors: Some repos are not building anymore with the newest Rust but I will try to fix them nevertheless. All in all I will be probably able to do it before the end of this week</li>
<li>Merge Backtrace PR: I cannot do a commit after rebasing withoutboats' branch on top of master. I think I might have messed up something and I will redo it and maybe it will 'magically' work this time. This I will do before the task above.<br>
Sorry once more. I hope such a delay will not impact anything too much <span aria-label="sad" class="emoji emoji-2639" role="img" title="sad">:sad:</span></li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221564919" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221564919">(Jan 04 2021 at 18:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344196">@Jakub Duchniewicz</span> sounds good. I don't think that you're delaying anything with the backtrace PR merge conflict fix. Feel free to ping me next time you're trying to do the rebase if you're still having trouble.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221565366" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221565366">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>alrighty everyone, meeting time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221565405" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221565405">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll be doing minutes so I might be moving a little slower this time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221565506" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221565506">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Lets start with attendance to get a good idea of who is here today, via emoji react</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221565655" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221565655">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm, first day after holiday and slack outage might mean most ppl than I realized are out</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221565700" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221565700">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344328">@Charles Ellis O'Riley Jr.</span> do you have any updates on the better assert impl since our last meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221565744" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221565744">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Last time you checked in it seemed you had a good idea of where to change the code but weren't sure how to test it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221565761" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221565761">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>did you end up getting rustup custom toolchains figured out?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221565783" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221565783">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>also hi <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="281739">@oliver</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221565878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221565878">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>hello :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221565909" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221565909">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Better cerebral understanding of the utf-8 code conversion to ast. So yes, better understanding</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566025" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566025">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="281739">@oliver</span> am I missing any action items for you? I don't show you as having any from our last meeting since the main issue you were working on (finishing the improve the error trait pr) is now waiting on other parties</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566081" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566081">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>nothing specific right now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566107" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566107">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I know how to test it.  One thing, I could not locate the boolean value in the existing ast code.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566120" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566120">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>did you me to help you pick out new things to focus on <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="281739">@oliver</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566155" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566155">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="344328">Charles Ellis O'Riley Jr.</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04/near/221566107">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I know how to test it.  One thing, I could not locate the boolean value in the existing ast code.</p>
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<p>which boolean value? The one from the panic assertion?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566188" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566188">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04/near/221566120">said</a>:</p>
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<p>did you me to help you pick out new things to focus on <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="281739">oliver</span></p>
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<p>yeah that would be great <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566271" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566271">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was looking for the logic for asser that shown an expression as true.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566315" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566315">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>alright <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="281739">@oliver</span> once we're done with this meeting ill dm you and we can figure out what to work on next</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566384" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566384">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="344328">Charles Ellis O'Riley Jr.</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04/near/221566271">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I was looking for the logic for asser that shown an expression as true.</p>
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<p>makes sense, I can probably help you find the boolean later after the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566417" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566417">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566503" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566503">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>alright</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566558" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566558">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, i don't have much of an update to give personally</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566579" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566579">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I relaxed these last two weeks ^_^</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566595" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566595">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>lots of hades</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566605" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566605">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>me 2</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566632" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566632">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>there was this: <a href="#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/2021.20edition.20changes">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/2021.20edition.20changes</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566697" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566697">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>it was suggested we could add ideas which aren't going to land<br>
in the next edition anyways</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566733" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566733">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>i dont have any breaking changes I can think of that we'd want off of the top of my head</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566754" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566754">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>A bit of an update on my end for the backtrace frame iterator PR: I also did not do any work on it over the holidays, so no progress to report on that, though I do plan on getting around to it soonTM.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566776" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566776">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04/near/221566733">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>i dont have any breaking changes I can think of that we'd want off of the top of my head</p>
</blockquote>
<p>the panic handlers?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566820" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566820">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="300743">@Sean Chen</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566847" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566847">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>this came up also: <a href="https://vorner.github.io/2021/01/03/dark-side-of-posix-apis.html">https://vorner.github.io/2021/01/03/dark-side-of-posix-apis.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566866" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566866">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="281739">oliver</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04/near/221566776">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04/near/221566733">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>i dont have any breaking changes I can think of that we'd want off of the top of my head</p>
</blockquote>
<p>the panic handlers?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>as in the universally consistent reporting stuff?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566915" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566915">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>i don't know that we'd be able to make any breaking changes for that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566956" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566956">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>since we can't do breaking changes in <code>std</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566960" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566960">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>only in the language itself</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566965" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566965">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I got the impression we could add it even if it wasn't possible</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566994" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566994">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>what do you mean</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221566997" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221566997">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not clear on that distinction</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567000" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567000">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>afaik we don't have a design we'd want added</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567014" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567014">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>since we're still early in the prototyping phase</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567050" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567050">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>my feeling is we shouldn't stress out over editions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567104" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567104">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe the items can be that speculative was the impression<br>
I got anyways</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567139" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567139">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>we should keep an eye on it probably but not stress out over it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567150" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567150">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>as long as there is _some_ substance and it's not OT</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567177" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567177">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="220273">Jane Lusby</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04/near/221567139">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>we should keep an eye on it probably but not stress out over it</p>
</blockquote>
<p>ya</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567182" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567182">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567185" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567185">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>alrighty</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567189" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567189">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>anything else?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567225" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567225">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's been pretty quiet, I caught up on emails <span aria-label="tada" class="emoji emoji-1f389" role="img" title="tada">:tada:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567231" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567231">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think im gonna do the same thing I did last week which is carry over the action items and what not from the current agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567240" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567240">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>since this was a very light meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567286" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567286">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>and if we don't have anything else I say we call it here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567369" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567369">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567427" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567427">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>Happy New Year everytone</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567494" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567494">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>happy NY</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202021-01-04/near/221567647" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202021-01-04.html#221567647">(Jan 04 2021 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Already got a great start to it with the slack outage <span aria-label="joy" class="emoji emoji-1f602" role="img" title="joy">:joy:</span></p>



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